Honda Cars 2007-2008

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Power Windows



Diagnosis & Testing

Specific to:

Honda Accord 2007-2008

  1. Remove the door panel to expose the power window motor. Refer to the following section, -Power Windows, Removal and Installation, Window Motor and Regulator.-
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  3. Disconnect the window motor wiring harness.
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  5. Test the motor in each direction by connecting battery power and ground according to the table. When the motor stops running, disconnect one lead immediately.
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  7. If the motor does not run or fails to run smoothly, replace it.

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    Fig. Test the motor in each direction by connecting battery power and ground according to the table-Accord Models

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Specific to:

Honda Civic 2007-2008

  1. Remove the door panel to expose the power window motor. Refer to the following section, -Power Windows, Removal and Installation, Window Motor and Regulator.-
  2.  
  3. Disconnect the window motor wiring harness.
  4.  
  5. Test the motor in each direction by connecting battery power and ground according to the table. When the motor stops running, disconnect one lead immediately.
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  7. If the motor does not run or fails to run smoothly, replace it.

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    Fig. Test the motor in each direction by connecting battery power and ground according to the table-Civic Models

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Driver-s Power Window Motor

Specific to:

Honda Fit 2007-2008

  1. Remove the driver's door panel.
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  3. Disconnect the 6-pin connector from the driver's window motor.
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  5. Test the motor in each direction by connecting battery power and ground according to the illustration.
    WARNING
    To prevent damage to the motor, disconnect one lead as soon as the motor stops running.

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  7. If the motor does not run or fails to run smoothly, replace it.

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    Fig. Checking driver-s power window motor

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  9. Reconnect the 6-pin connector to the window motor, and reconnect the 20-pin connector to the power window master switch.
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  11. Check for voltage between the terminals.
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  13. There should be battery voltage between the No. 6 (+) and No. 4 (-) terminals when the ignition switch is turned ON (II).
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  15. Connect an analog voltmeter between the No. 5 (+) and No. 4 (-) terminals, and run the window motor down or up.
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  17. The voltmeter needle should move back and forth alternately (a digital voltmeter should show the average voltage between 0-5 V).
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Driver-s Power Window Switch

Specific to:

Honda Fit 2007-2008


NOTE
The driver's switch is combined with the control unit so you cannot isolate the switch to test it. Instead, run the Master Switch Input Test procedures. If the tests are normal, the driver's switch must be faulty.

Passenger-s Power Window Motor

Specific to:

Honda Fit 2007-2008

  1. Remove the door panel.
  2.  
  3. Disconnect the 2-pin connector from the passenger's power window motor.
  4.  
  5. Test the motor in each direction by connecting battery power and ground according to the chart.
    WARNING
    To prevent damage to the motor, disconnect one lead as soon as the motor stops running.

  6.  
  7. If the motor does not run or fails to run smoothly, replace it.

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    Fig. Checking passenger-s power window motor

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Master Switch

Specific to:

Honda Fit 2007-2008

  1. Check for continuity between the terminals in each switch position as shown.

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    Fig. Checking master power window switch for continuity

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Master Switch Input Test

Specific to:

Honda Fit 2007-2008


NOTE
The power window control unit is built into the power window master switch, and it only controls the driver's window operations.

  1. Remove the power window master switch (A).
  2.  
  3. Disconnect the 20-pin connector (B) from the master switch.
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  5. Inspect the connector and socket terminals to be sure they are all making good contact.
    1. If the terminals are bent, loose or corroded, repair them as necessary, and recheck the system.
    2.  
    3. If the terminals look OK, make the following input tests at the connector (chart 1 of 2):

      If a test indicates a problem, find and correct the cause, then recheck the system.
       
      If all the input tests prove OK, go to step 4.
       

    4.  

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  7. With the connector still disconnected, make these input tests at the connector:
    1. If any test indicates a problem, find and correct the cause, then recheck the system.
    2.  
    3. If all the input tests prove OK, go to step 5.

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      Fig. Showing the terminals for checking master power window switch input



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      Fig. Input check (1 of 2)

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  9. Reconnect the 20-pin connector to the switch, and perform the following input tests (chart 2 of 2):
    1. If any test indicates a problem, find and correct the cause, then recheck the system.
    2.  
    3. If all the input tests prove OK, the control unit must be faulty; replace the power window master switch.

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      Fig. Input check (2 of 2)

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Passenger Side Window Switch

Specific to:

Honda Fit 2007-2008

  1. Check for continuity between the terminals in each switch position as shown.

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    Fig. Checking passenger-s power window switch for continuity

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Removal & Installation
Motor & Regulator

Specific to:

Honda S2000 2007-2008


WARNING
When performing this procedure, wear gloves to protect your hands, be careful not to scratch the door. Do NOT drop the window glass inside the door.


NOTE
This procedure requires the use of KTC Trim Tool Set SOJATP2014* and Trim pad remover, Snap-on® A 177A or equivalent, commercially available tools. Take care not to scratch the door panel and door. Use the appropriate tool from the KTC trim tool set to avoid damage when prying components.

  1. Remove the door panel in the numbered sequence shown in the accompanying illustration. Remove the door panel with as little bending as possible to avoid creasing or breaking it.

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    Fig. Door panel removal and installation-S2000 Models

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  3. Remove the lock switch and switch panel from the door panel. Detach the electrical connector, and then remove the switch.
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  5. Remove the inner door handle and rod crank.
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  7. Remove the plastic cover.
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  9. Remove the door glass and regulator in numbered sequence:
    1. Hold the adjusting bolts with a hex wrench when removing the locknuts.
    2.  
    3. Mark a line around the stabilizer mounting bolt, the glass mounting bolts, and the regulator mounting nuts to show the original locations.
    4.  

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To install:

  1. Install the glass and regulator in the reverse order of removal, and note these items:
    1. Hold the adjusting bolts with a hex wrench when installing the locknuts.
    2.  
    3. Before installing the regulator, apply multipurpose grease to all the sliding surfaces of the regulator.
    4.  
    5. Make sure the connector is plugged in properly.
    6.  
    7. Roll the glass up and down to see if it moves freely without binding.
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    9. Make sure that there is no clearance between the glass and roof weatherstrip when the glass is closed.
    10.  
    11. Test-drive and check for wind noise and rattles.
    12.  
    13. When reinstalling the door panel, make sure the plastic cover is installed properly and sealed around its perimeter.
    14.  

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  3. Install the door panel in the reverse order of removal, and note these items:
    1. Check for damaged or stress-whitened clips, and replace them with new ones.
    2.  
    3. Make sure the connectors are plugged in properly.
    4.  
    5. Push the clips into place securely.
    6.  
    7. Check the window and power door lock operations.
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2-Door Models

Specific to:

Honda Accord 2007


NOTE
This procedure requires the use of KTC trim tool set SOJATP2014 and Trim pad remover, Snap-on® A 177A or equivalent, commercially available, or equivalent trim tools. Make sure to use the appropriate tool from the KTC trim tool set to avoid damage when prying components.

  1. Lower the glass fully.
  2.  
  3. Using a trim tool, pry out on the lower portion of the cover (A) to release the hooks (B, C), and then remove the cover and the screws.

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    Fig. Using a trim tool, pry out on the lower portion of the cover (A) to release the hooks (B, C), then remove the cover and the screws-2007 Accord 2-Door Models

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  5. Remove the power window switch panel (A), as follows:
    1. Insert a flat-tip screwdriver wrapped with protective tape through the hole under the armrest, and push up the bottom of the power window switch (B) to release the pane.
    2.  
    3. Pull out along the edge of the panel to release the hook (C) and clips (D).
    4.  
    5. Disconnect the power mirror switch connector (E) (driver's) and the power window switch connector (F).
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  7. Remove the screws (G) from under the armrest.

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    Fig. Removing the power window switch panel-2007 Accord 2-Door Models

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  9. Remove the mirror mount cover, as follows:
    1. Carefully pry out the mirror mount cover (A) by hand in the sequence shown.

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      Fig. Removing the mirror mount cover (A)-2007 Accord 2-Door Models

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  11. Remove the door panel (A) with as little bending as possible to avoid creasing or breaking it, as follows:
    1. Start at the bottom edge of the door panel, release the clips that are just above the marks (B) on the edge of the panel with a commercially available trim pad remover.
    2.  
    3. Detach the upper clips.
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    5. Starting at the rear, pull the door panel upward and over the lock knob (C).
      NOTE
      The inner handle cable (D) and the courtesy light bulb socket (E) are connected to the door panel. Do not pull the door panel up too far, or the inner handle cable will be damaged.



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      Fig. Door panel removal and installation-2007 Accord 2-Door Models

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  13. While holding the door panel (A) away from the door, disconnect the inner handle cable (B) and courtesy light bulb socket (C), and detach the harness clip (D) from the panel, then remove the panel.

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    Fig. While holding the door panel (A) away from the door, disconnect the inner handle cable (B) and courtesy light bulb socket (C), and detach the harness clip (D) from the panel, then remove the panel

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  15. If necessary, remove the door glass inner weatherstrip (A) from the door panel (B) by pulling it down.

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    Fig. If necessary, remove the door glass inner weatherstrip (A) from the door panel (B) by pulling it down-2007 Accord 2-Door Models

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  17. Remove the plastic cover.
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  19. Carefully raise the glass (A) until you can see the bolts, and then remove them. Carefully pull the glass out through the window slot. Take care not to drop the glass inside the door.

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    Fig. Carefully raise the glass (A) until you can see the bolts, then remove them. Carefully pull the glass out through the window slot-2007 Accord 2-Door Models

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  21. Disconnect the connector (A) from the regulator (B).
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  23. Remove the bolts (C), and loosen the bolts (D), then remove the regulator through the hole in the door.

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    Fig. Disconnect the connector (A) from the regulator (B). Then remove the bolts (C), and loosen the bolts (D), then remove the regulator through the hole in the door-2007 Accord 2-Door Models

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To install:

  1. Apply multipurpose grease to all the sliding surfaces of the regulator (A) where shown.

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    Fig. Apply multipurpose grease to all the sliding surfaces of the regulator (A) where shown-2007 Accord 2-Door Models

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  3. Install the glass and regulator in the reverse order of removal, and note these items:
    1. Roll the glass up and down to see if it moves freely without binding.
    2.  
    3. Make sure that there is no clearance between the glass and glass run channel when the glass is closed.
    4.  

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  5. Install the panel in the reverse order of removal, and note these items:
    1. Check if the clip is damaged or stress-whitened, and if necessary, replace it with new one.
    2.  
    3. Make sure the connectors are plugged in properly, and the cable and the bulb socket are connected properly.
    4.  
    5. Make sure the window and power door lock operate properly.
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    7. When reinstalling the door panel, make sure the plastic cover is installed properly and sealed around its outside perimeter to seal out water.
    8.  
    9. Check for water leaks.
      NOTE
      Reset the power window control unit using one of the two following procedures.

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  7. Resetting the power window control unit with an HDS:
    1. Connect the Honda Diagnostic System (HDS) to the vehicle's DLC.
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    3. Turn the ignition switch ON (II), and then enter the vehicle's VIN and mileage at the prompts.
    4.  
    5. Select Body Electrical from the System Selection menu.
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    7. From the Body Electrical System Select menu, select Power Windows.
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    9. From the Mode menu, select Adjustments.
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    11. From the Adjustment menu, select Window P Reset.
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    13. Follow the prompts on the screen.
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    15. Confirm that the power window master switch is reset by using the driver's window AUTO UP and DOWN function.
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  9. Resetting the power window control unit without an HDS:
    1. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
    2.  
    3. Move the driver's window all the way down by using the driver's window DOWN switch.
    4.  
    5. Open the driver's door.
      NOTE
      Steps d-g must be done within 5 seconds of each other.

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    7. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
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    9. Push and hold the driver's window DOWN switch.
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    11. Turn the ignition switch ON (II).
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    13. Release the driver's window DOWN switch.
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    15. Repeat steps d.-g. three more times.
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    17. Wait 1 second.
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    19. Confirm that AUTO UP and AUTO DOWN do not work. If AUTO UP and DOWN work, go back to step a.
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    21. Move the driver's window all the way down by holding the driver's window DOWN switch to the AUTO DOWN position.
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    23. Pull up and hold the driver's window UP switch to the AUTO UP position until the window reaches the fully closed position, and then continue to hold the switch for 1 second.
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    25. Confirm that the power window master switch is reset by using the driver's window AUTO UP and DOWN function.
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    27. If the window still does not work in AUTO, repeat the procedure several times, paying close attention to the 5 second time limit between steps.
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  11. Enter the anti-theft codes for the audio and the navigation system, and then enter the audio presets.
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Specific to:

Honda Civic 2007-2008


NOTE
This procedure requires the use of KTC trim tool set SOJATP2014 and Trim pad remover, Snap-on® A 177A or equivalent, commercially available trim panel removal tools.


NOTE
Use the appropriate tool from the KTC trim tool set to avoid damage when prying components.

  1. Lower the window glass fully.
  2.  
  3. If equipped with manual windows: remove the regulator handle (A) by pulling the clip (B) out with a wire hook (C).

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    Fig. If equipped with manual windows: remove the regulator handle (A) by pulling the clip (B) out with a wire hook (C)

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  5. Remove the inner handle (A), being careful not to scratch the door panel, as follows:
    1. Pry out on the upper portion of the cover (B) to release the hooks (C, D), and then remove the cover.
    2.  
    3. Remove the screws
    4.  
    5. Pull the inner handle forward and out half-way to release the hook (E).
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    7. Disconnect the inner handle rod (F) and power door lock switch connector (G) (driver's side for some models).

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      Fig. Door inner handle removal and installation

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  7. Remove the switch panel (A) (power window model) or the pull pocket (B) (manual window model), as follows:
    1. Using a trim tool, pry the cap (C), and then remove the screw (D).
    2.  
    3. Pry out the panel or pocket to release the clips (E).
    4.  
    5. Release the clip (F) by pulling the cover or pocket forward.
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    7. Power window model: Disconnect the power window switch connector (G).
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  9. Remove the screws (H) securing the door panel.
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  11. Remove the mirror mount cover, as follows:
    1. Make sure the door glass is fully lowered.
    2.  
    3. Carefully pry out the mirror mount cover (A) by hand in the sequence shown.

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      Fig. Mirror mount cover removal-2-door Civic

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  12.  
  13. Release the clips that hold the door panel (A) with a commercially available trim pad remover (B), and then remove the door panel by pulling it upward. Remove the door panel with as little bending as possible to avoid creasing or breaking it.

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    Fig. Door panel removal and installation

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  15. Remove the plastic liner from the door.
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  17. Carefully raise the glass (A) until you can see the bolts, and then remove them. Carefully pull the glass out through the window slot. Take care not to drop the glass inside the door.

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    Fig. Carefully raise the glass (A) until you can see the bolts, then remove them. Carefully pull the glass out through the window slot. Take care not to drop the glass inside the door

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  19. If equipped with power windows: Disconnect and detach the connector (A) and harness clip (B) from the door.
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  21. Remove the bolts (C), and loosen the bolts (D, E), then remove the regulator (F) through the hole in the door. Power window is shown, manual window is similar.

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    Fig. Disconnect and detach the connector (A) and harness clip (B) from the door. Remove the bolts (C), and loosen the bolts (D, E), then remove the regulator (F) through the hole in the door-power window shown, manual window similar

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To install:

  1. Apply multipurpose grease to the sliding surfaces of the regulator (A) where shown.

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    Fig. Apply multipurpose grease to the sliding surfaces of the regulator (A) where shown

  2.  
  3. Install the glass and regulator in the reverse order of removal, and note these items:
  4.  
  5. Roll the glass up and down to see if it moves freely without binding.
  6.  
  7. Make sure that there is no clearance between the glass and glass run channel when the glass is closed.
  8.  
  9. Test-drive and check for wind noise and rattles.
  10.  
  11. When reinstalling the door panel, make sure the plastic cover is installed properly and sealed around its outside perimeter to seal out water.
  12.  
  13. Install the door panel in the reverse order of removal, and note these items:
    1. Replace any damaged clips.
    2.  
    3. Make sure the connectors are plugged in properly, and the rod is connected properly.
    4.  
    5. Make sure the window and power door locks operate properly.
    6.  
    7. If equipped with manual windows, install the regulator handle so it points forward and up at a 45° angle with the glass fully closed.

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      Fig. If equipped with manual windows, install the regulator handle so it points forward and up at a 45° angle with the glass fully closed

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